Pimp your players for awards thread

[bballfan72031]

Use this thread to explain why a certain player should win a certain award.

[bballfan72031]

Somehow, Jazz is in last place in DPOY voting. But the truth is, JAZZ definitely deserves Defensive Player of the Year.

HULK:
Steals: 60
Shot Blocks: 100
Post Defense: 6
Perimeter Defense: 5
Drive Defense: 5
Total 176

MAD D:
Steals:
Shot Blocks: 100
Post Defense: 100
Perimeter Defense: 70
Drive Defense:
Total 270

SHOW STOPPA:
Steals:
Shot Blocks: 100
Post Defense: 100
Perimeter Defense:
Drive Defense:
Total 200

JAZZ:
Steals:
Shot Blocks: 95
Post Defense: 95
Perimeter Defense: 30
Drive Defense: 95
Total 315


It's not even close! Jazz is the top defender in the league. Just quickly looking through his last 3 games, he has held his opponent to an average of 14 points per game! That's against Spike, Tractor, and Show Stoppa!


It kinda sucks that Skillz didn't make the All Defensive Team....he's more of a lockdown defender than just a stealer.....but looking at the ratings, there's no question that Jazz is the DPOY.


Okay, that's my rant for now.

[mmisk27]

The Machine

Steals - 0
Blocks - 100
Post D - 100
Per D - 20
Drive D - 100

Total - 320

And he's not even in the DPOY voting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[afromaniac085]

look at the stats, cuase thats what fireworks did..i think

[phillyphan]

Let's start this up for this season. It's getting close to the season's end and its fun to argue and pimp your player! ;D I will most definitely be pimping Silk for Player of the Year, just gotta do the research on this season's stats.

[The Rebirth]

Lol.

[The Game/Chamillionaire]

The Game definitely deserves ROY and Mad D deserves a CSSL Team Award and DPOY.....why........well i dunno i just feel they deserve them.......mad d averages about 3 blocks a game, hell he may even average 4 bpg and 11 boards a game so thats why i feel he deserves DPOY

[The Game/Chamillionaire]

anth said:

The Game definitely deserves ROY and Mad D deserves a CSSL Team Award and DPOY.....why........well i dunno i just feel they deserve them.......mad d averages about 3 blocks a game, hell he may even average 4 bpg and 11 boards a game so thats why i feel he deserves DPOY

stats back up mad d gettin some awards

averages are 23.9 ppg (basically you could say 24)/14.3 rpg/and 3.2 bpg.......they arent MVP type numbers but he is pretty dang good.....if his 3 point shootin was better he'd prolly approach 30 ppg since hes playin SF

[mmisk27]

Well, you can look below at the stats for my guys and they are both pretty impressive. Between the two of them they have 6 or 7 Game MVPs. Both were starters in the All-Star game and Machine won MVP. I would say that both of them are MVP candidates although I can't say which is better. Hurricane has arguably been the best player on Puma and continues to do it all. The Machine has been a monster on D with 5.2 blocks per game and should win DPOY and maybe MIP since he wasn't even an All-Star last season. He proved in the ASG just how dominant he is.

[bballfan72031]

JAZZ's current defensive ratings:

POST D: 100
DRIVE D: 100
PERIMETER D: 50 (he's a PF!)
BLOCKS: 100
QUICKNESS: 100
STRENGTH: 100
JUMPING: 100

PLUS I have a bunch of points to add still that I just haven't got around to. If anyone argues Jazz is poor in an area, I can just add points to that category.

Jazz is the best defensive player in the game.



Not to mention it would be a travesty if he didn't at least get all-second team.

[afromaniac085]

bballfan72031 said:

JAZZ's current defensive ratings:

POST D: 100
DRIVE D: 100
PERIMETER D: 50 (he's a PF!)
BLOCKS: 100
QUICKNESS: 100
STRENGTH: 100
JUMPING: 100

PLUS I have a bunch of points to add still that I just haven't got around to. If anyone argues Jazz is poor in an area, I can just add points to that category.

Jazz is the best defensive player in the game.



Not to mention it would be a travesty if he didn't at least get all-second team.

players STATS are what really matters, jazz is good on defense, but if it doesn't show up in the games it doesn't matter

[bballfan72031]

What defensive stats are there? Blocks and steals? That's ridiculous. Blocks and steals make up a very small part of defense, although Jazz probably kicks ass in blocks anyway.

Any +/- stats? Defensive PER's? Has Dan Rosenbaum taken a look at this? Uh, no.

Jazz just hasn't played a lot of minutes because he's on Nike. But his blocks probably are still awesome, and he has a big defensive affect on games when he's in there.

[mmisk27]

bballfan72031 said:

JAZZ's current defensive ratings:

POST D: 100
DRIVE D: 100
PERIMETER D: 50 (he's a PF!)
BLOCKS: 100
QUICKNESS: 100
STRENGTH: 100
JUMPING: 100

PLUS I have a bunch of points to add still that I just haven't got around to. If anyone argues Jazz is poor in an area, I can just add points to that category.

Jazz is the best defensive player in the game.



Not to mention it would be a travesty if he didn't at least get all-second team.

Best defensive player in the game? LOL. He's good.....very good. But he isn't as good as The Machine either ratings or numbers wise!

Shot Blocks: 100
Post Defense: 100
Perimeter Defense: 82
Drive Defense: 100
O-Rebounding: 100
D-Rebounding: 100
Strength: 100
Jumping: 100

[bballfan72031]

Er....you do know that the Max for perimeter defense at PF or C is 75, right? You know, the rules.

Let's take a look at when Jazz actually DID get minutes, in the 3 v 3 games:

Jazz's team, THE BIG 3, went up against the following six players en route to the title:
The Machine
The Choker
Bonafide
Show Stoppa
Mad D
Hot Shot

Amazingly, ALL SIX OF THOSE PLAYERS WERE HELD TO BELOW 50% SHOOTING in the matchups. Part of that was because of Great Wall and Hurricane, though part of that may have also been from Jazz's average of 7 blocks per game.

As for The Machine? Well, up against The BIG 3, he got a solid 5 blocks....but also fouled out of the game and lost....while all of our players shot 50% or higher from the floor.



I'm not disputing The Machine is an excellent defensive player. I feel him and Jazz are the two best big men in the game defensively. But when Jazz gets minutes, he produces....and you gotta edit your perimeter defense.

[bballfan72031]

It's cool if Jazz doesn't get Defensive Player of the Year, though. As long as he makes All-defensive team, I'm happy.

Hopefully, Fresh Skillz will, too. One of the top perimeter defensive players in the league.

[mmisk27]

Thanks for the tip bball. I forgot that C's could only have a max. 75 perimeter D I fixed Machine's ratings. I love how you bragged about Jazz holding Machine to below 50% shooting.... all the way down to 48%. LOL. If you're gonna brag about a stat, at least make it one that is worhty of bragging about. Not that impressive when you consider that the Jazz only shot 2% higher and Machine put up 5 3's and also Machine two partners happened to have horrible games and one fouled out very early. But we'll let everyone vote and see who gets bragging rights.

[afromaniac085]

bballfan72031 said:

What defensive stats are there? Blocks and steals? That's ridiculous. Blocks and steals make up a very small part of defense, although Jazz probably kicks ass in blocks anyway.

Any +/- stats? Defensive PER's? Has Dan Rosenbaum taken a look at this? Uh, no.

Jazz just hasn't played a lot of minutes because he's on Nike. But his blocks probably are still awesome, and he has a big defensive affect on games when he's in there.

yeah he doesn't get many minutes. he may be the best d player out there, but because he never gets a chance to show it, he will be held back. Someone can say that andre kirilenko is the best defensive player in the nba, but he got injured last year, so he didn't play, so he should have the won the dpoy award or nba all d team? u can also look at opposing players shooting % and points scored. Jazz is a great defensive player, i think he should be all-d, but if other players put up better stats, its hard to argue.

[Converse Owner ilovebball]

bballfan72031 said:

What defensive stats are there? Blocks and steals? That's ridiculous. Blocks and steals make up a very small part of defense, although Jazz probably kicks ass in blocks anyway.

Any +/- stats? Defensive PER's? Has Dan Rosenbaum taken a look at this? Uh, no.

Jazz just hasn't played a lot of minutes because he's on Nike. But his blocks probably are still awesome, and he has a big defensive affect on games when he's in there.

Defensive stats are overrated (especially steals), the best way to tell a player is a good defender is by watching him play.

Defensive +/- stats, and blocks IMO, are the best for interior players. I disagree on you saying blocks make up a small part of defense- great shotblockers may only get 3 blocks a game, but they are still intimidators (which causes many shots to be altered)

Dr. Rosenbaum's ratings IMO need some refinement (perhaps a different system for perimeter and post defensive players)



I like Mad D because of his ability to guard both the interior and the perimeter very effectively.

[Desperado]

IMO, remember this will be up for voting...

[bballfan72031]

mmisk27 said:

Thanks for the tip bball. I forgot that C's could only have a max. 75 perimeter D I fixed Machine's ratings. I love how you bragged about Jazz holding Machine to below 50% shooting.... all the way down to 48%. LOL. If you're gonna brag about a stat, at least make it one that is worhty of bragging about. Not that impressive when you consider that the Jazz only shot 2% higher and Machine put up 5 3's and also Machine two partners happened to have horrible games and one fouled out very early. But we'll let everyone vote and see who gets bragging rights.

;D Hey, I use what I got. I expect Machine to win either DPOY or MVP, anyway, so I just gotta try and pimp my guys.

[phillyphan]

SILK FOR MVP!

While Hurricane has been very impressive and an integral part of why Puma is 12-1, you shouldn't overlook their shortest starter and All-Star snub: Salim "Silk" Stoudamire. He only has 2 game MVP's, but has been Puma's most consistent performer. Last season, Silk played a handful of games at shooting guard and struggled. But with the whole season at the point, Puma's offense has run like a well-oiled machine.

In week 9, Silk had one of if not the most impressive games of CSSL's second season. Posting 56 points and 18 assists, meaning that he was either responsible or partly responsible for 92 (yes 92!!!) points in a single game.

For the season he is averaging 30.2 points per game, 11.3 assists per game, and 4.7 rebounds per game (not bad for a 6-1 point guard on a team full of rebounders). He has shot an efficient 53% from the field and 91.4% from the charity stripe. Perhaps the most impressive is that while Silk has averaged over 11 dimes a game, he is only averaging 1.84 turnovers per game. Such efficiency is unheard of on a streetball court.

Not to mention he won this year's Slam Dunk contest!

So don't snub the little guy again when the time comes to vote. Forget the big names with bad records, and remember the guy who has steered Puma to the league's best record.

[The Rebirth]

Damn I regret not picking myself for ROY. Just look at the statline. Only thing that Masterlock had was a winning team record. Its not about player for the name on the back of your Jersey, you play for the name on the front of your jersey and his team had the better record.

Check da Stat Line in my sig.